Bwaha..

[theducks]

Oh man..

Now, I'll be the first to admit I'm not one to immediately trust DailyKos with information about prominent republicans, but I must say, this is convincing..

You (may or may not..) know that Sarah Palin (John McCain's VP running mate) has been widely reported of being pregnant, then having a baby with Downs Syndrome, thus fossilizing her pro-life platform.

Except, the problem that DailyKos has made a very very good case for, is that she looks like she was never pregnant during, well, all of her pregnancy, and as governor of Alaska, she gets photographed a lot. Her 16 year old daughter, on the other hand, was out of school for months with "Mono" and who looks pregnant in a bunch of official photos. Uh huuuh.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

Remind me again who shouldn't be trusted with "the button"?

Comments

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

in that photo she's just chubby. pregnant bellies start at the pelvis, not just above the jeans line.

[theducks.livejournal.com]

I dunno, looking at how he legs seem bent, I'd say it does start at the pelvis..

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

I was looking more at the shadow above her thumb, which looks like the bulge is going in

[evil-megz.livejournal.com]

yet unfortunate fashion trends will have her jeans line and pelvis at the same level. I'd say the photo itself isn't convincing, especially since they'd surely take a bit more care if she was preggers, throw a younger sister in the way of the belly etc. I'm more convinced by the photos of Sarah looking so slim.

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

where by pelvis I mean pubic bone, which the jeans are at least 2 inches above. it was more that there is a distinct shadow showing the decrease in size of her belly near the jean line

[evil-megz.livejournal.com]

the bottom of her belly looks like it's about in line with her bum crack, and if you follow your bum crack around to the front you will find your pubic bone. The shadow you mention, in my opinion, sways more towards pregnant belly since chubby bellies don't have such a sharp indent, while pregnant bellies to. Not to mention there is significant variation in where women carry their babies.

Really we just need to find more photos of her.

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

yeah, that one photo individually isn't convincing

[evil-megz.livejournal.com]

so we were on the wrong track. It's not which one looks more pregnant, because both do!

I find this hilarious.

[velithya]

check out the line of her backside, though - I think her hips are higher than you think they are, and she's on an angle so it doesn't look so bad.

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

when I stand in that same position I have the same bulge, so I think it is too high to be "pregnant" bulge, even taking into account the line of her arse

[velithya]

congratulations! When are you due?

[pooxs.livejournal.com]

if only I had had sex that recently to be pregnant :P

rain isn't the only thing missing in this town.

[kokomo.livejournal.com]

I agree, she looks curvy - not preggers!

[alias_sqbr]

I don't know, if I was pregnant and trying to hide it I wouldn't wear that sort of outfit/pose in such a visible way. The mother on the other hand is wearing something loose and standing behind someone..like she's hiding a big belly.

Which isn't to say I'd vote for her anyway, she has plenty of unambiguous flaws :)

[therealocelot.livejournal.com]

I hate to have the whole pregnancy thing even be an issue, but it seems there are two possibilities:

1. Her labor started early (at least a month, possibly only a few weeks) when her water broke while she was in Texas. She got on an airplane back to Alaska (supposedly a normal commercial flight) where she had the baby.

She got on an airplane after her water broke. For a long flight. With a high risk, possibly premature baby. Doesn't sound like good judgement.

2. It was actually a ruse to cover the 16 year old's pregnancy. Again, questionable judgement.

The thing is, if her daughter had been pregnant and they'd handled it in a reasonable and non-deceptive manner, it would have increased my opinion of her. Not enough for me to vote for McCain, but it wouldn't have frightened me like the other two options do.

My hope is that the whole Texas story is misreported/rumor.

I do admit that, as someone who doesn't show much and probably could have flown to Alaska successfully, if not comfortably, during labor, I have a problem with all the people saying "That's not how it was for me, so it isn't possible". It's not entirely implausible to me. Just rather lacking in judgement.

[singularity.livejournal.com]

Okay, I'm not a doctor so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't need to be off school for months if you have mono as a teenager. Usually it's no more than a couple of weeks spread out if you have the longer annoying type that can last (I had this and still managed to get to school for at least brief periods of time). But you can still very easily go to school and not be infectious to others. If you have it for a short time, then you're not gone for long at all.

As for fatigue, in a young person, should not be bad enough as a reason to be at home and not in school.

[lauredhel.livejournal.com]

Postviral fatigue hits on a spectrum, from mildly dragging for a few weeks to completely bedridden for months or longer. And young people, including teenagers, get it too.

As for that DailyKosian presenting a persuasive argument? Erm, no. It seems based entirely on someone looking at the photos who really isn't familiar with the variety of pregnant women's bodies. To me, having worked pretty extensively with pregnant women, Palin looks either pregnant or concealing in every single picture presented as "evidence" of her "not being pregnant", and very convincingly pregnant in the Juneau video. The linchpin of the poster's argument seems to centre around the idea that a woman halfway through her pregnancy couldn't possibly be getting around at a brisk walk or enjoying vigorous exercise, something that is patently false.

[singularity.livejournal.com]

Oh well, learned something new. I was only going on what I knew and saw when we had an outbreak of it when I was in high school.

[evil-megz.livejournal.com]

Oh god.


the baby is named Trig Paxson Van Palin, with brother Track Palin and sisters Bristol Palin, Willow Palin and Piper Palin.

"we're pro-life. We believe every child has the right to be born and named something ridiculous they will be teased about for the rest of their life :D"

[trs80.ucc.asn.au (from livejournal.com)]

What other people said. Also, Downs correlates strongly with age.

[evil-megz.livejournal.com]

oh yeah I didn't even consider that.

but then MAYBE the down syndrome thing is a lie within a lie to try and throw people of their trail. HMMMMM

[bloodied-aura.livejournal.com]

what's this now?
Correlates strongly with age? Too young, I'm guessing?
How interesting.

[trs80.ucc.asn.au (from livejournal.com)]

Yeah, at 20 it's less than 0.1%, at 45 it's 5%

[bloodied-aura.livejournal.com]

Ahh I see. Good to know, I guess.

[theducks.livejournal.com]

I know someone (ok, friend of a friend), now my age, who had a child with Downs Syndrome at age 19